Started 13June2018 (Rev 2 that date, paragraph “I think I’ll keep the SUB C-8 D”)
This page is in group Technology and is a blog note about my experience with two subwoofers. One was humming past acceptance to my ears, the other has a switched-mode power supply..
Standard Disclaimer. Plus I am no expert on audio.
I grew up at a house close to a transformer station, where my father worked. My room was filled with 50 Hz hum 24/7. My brain had to adapt. But since long, when it became far away in all aspects, I tend to detect 50 Hz whenever there is any.
My speakers (MicroPod by Podspeakers) here at my home office did not completely fulfil my idea of full sound. After all, one of them has an analogue 3.5 mm (mono) subwoofer output, so thinking about a subwoofer was (perhaps) just the next point.
I went down the street and picked up a BASS8 by Argon Audio. A quite nice speaker to look at. It sounded good as well. But I did hear 50 Hz hum from it. It was coming from the speaker, even with nothing connected. It must have been picked up in the preamplifier stage since both the crossover and input volume potmeters when turned down seemed to lower the hum. (Not sure about that, in the shop one of them seemed to increase the hum! Hmm.)
I tried a grounded power receptacle and the hum seemed worse. All subjective, nothing measured! So I added a cable switch in the power line to switch it off whenever I didn’t want to have hum in the background. This worked until I decided to play Piano by Benny Andersson. The music is so soft, has so little bass when played at a low volume that the hum to me was always present. Piano plus hum is nothing for me.
I talked with the people at the shop and the unit was opened. There is a laminated core transformer in there, and an analogue amplifier plus cooling fins in the back. I think it’s got capacitive coupling to the speakers, non-tube low voltage class-AB amplifiers I guess won’t need an output transformer. When I built a scope when I was a youth (here), I could see the 50 Hz field from the transformer on the CRT if the iron were not good enough, or the transformer was mounted at a wrong angle. When I built amplifiers and could not afford a toroid trafo with lower spreading field, then hum was almost impossible to get rid of. No matter how good I was at grounding trying to avoid ground loops (one ground!) and using shielded cables. And I didn’t have a subwoofer to amplify the problem. Argon Audio knows all this plus lots more. Within the budget they had for this box I guess hum was unavoidable(?) Or better: low hum was considered acceptable to most customers. (But they could have made the Auto off/on better, it switched on and off too often. That’s where my easily accesible power switch came in.)
But not acceptable for me. So I brought it back and swapped it for a SUB C-8 D Subwoofer by DALI. It cost twice the price. But I could hear no hum in the shop. None. From the downwards speaker. The man in the shop said I should take it home and try it, there may be a different background sound level there.
There was. This box has a Class-D amplifier (it’s “switching”, not “digital”). Plus a switched-mode power supply. A rather large one, hundreds a watts. I didn’t have to open it to find out. The box has no external heat fin (they use the flat metal in the back) even if DALI says there is 30% loss. I think this is including the loss of the power supply, since the Class-D could in theory go up to 90% efficiency. I guess it’s easier to allow this kind of power supply when there is a Class-D amplifier. Besides there would be very low 50 Hz background field in the box. As I have indicated already I could hear the switched-mode switching! (If it’s not a switched-mode power in there I’ll have to eat my hat..) The idle switching from these is rather non-periodic with a high frequency pitch, so it’s easy to distinguish. When I put my ears to the box: I didn’t like it. From under my table: barely. Or a little more. Or perhaps none. Besides, the Auto off/on works much better. I don’t seem to need my table-top line switch much, do I.
I was rather impressed with both boxes, how I could not hear any (or not much) additional noise when the analogue cable was connected. So my ground level(s) must to be rather cooperative, too.
By the way, electrically connecting the mono output from the MicroPod to both Right and Left RCA connector inputs of the DALI doubles the voltage and quadruples the power (about 6 dB, see Is it worth using a Subwoofer Splitter Y-Adapter Cable? and Wikipedia). I’d like to see the equivalent circuit for this to believe it goes for the circuit starting at the RCA connectors ending in the speaker coil. It should be ok if the switching amplifier acts as a current source: delivering into the coil (4 Ohm?) a current like 1 A from the Left RCA and 1 A from the Right RCA sums (which a current output amplifier does) up to 2 A. This is four times the power, from 4 Watt (W) to 16 W. I believe this makes sense since the filter capacitors do deliver current to the speaker coils. Ohm’s law is W=R*I2=U*I and it spells out as Power in Watt = resistance in Ohm (Ω) of the coil * current in Ampere * current in Ampere = Voltage * Current. In the example above: 4Ω*1A*1A=4W vs. 4Ω*(1+1)A*(1+1)A=16W. When I soldered a subwoofer splitter Y-adapter cable from parts I had then I think I could actually feel, with a finger, the membrane getting more movement! But the DALI box has more gain so it isn’t necessary. As an engineer I would say it would also help with the signal/noise ratio, but the thermal noise would be rather low at those frequencies.
I think I’ll keep the SUB C-8 D. If I the noise kicks me out of my flow when I am playing and the music stops (because yes, noise is audible and yes, most of the time anything kicks me out of flow, so I seldom play music at all in that state) – then my line switch off and on takes it into idle, with no noise. I haven’t concluded not to open it to try to add some silicon(?) at places on the noisy ferrite(?) trafos. But this would break guarantees etc., so I ‘ll avoid opening it for all it’s worth. But I’ll also probably keep it because the box is rather nice with curious grandchildren popping into my home office; or me and them laying on the floor doing Märklin my world train layouts. No visible membrane to easily punctuate!
Nothing is perfect when it comes to non-wanted sound. Even the fan in my iMac was somewhat problematic. But I was able to dampen it enough. See Dampening iMac fan noise. It’s always a matter of measurable level and psychological acceptance threshold. Plus fighting the tinnitus level up there.
Now I think I can hear some hum between Piano songs. Is it in the recording? It’s there just after a song, then it’s gone for some hundred milliseconds, and I can’t hear it again when the next song comes on. Observed from above my table high above. So take it with a grain of salt.
Norwegian summary: During i basshøyttaler pluss lyd fra svitsjet strømforsyning